Complete and utter scam, dont waste your money on the vip group or the 100 to 10k challenge group. You will not only lose the subscription fee, but you will slowly and surely blow up your account from their signals. From every 5 signals, 3 to 5 will hit the stop loss and not even once the take profit level hit, NOT ONCE!! Bottom line is, dont waste your time or money, you can do a better job if you trade alone and learn trading.